> do you think that the old guard which has not yet retired and is > still active in the net tends to seclude in circles of persons of > same age and level of knowledge? Almost certainly. --------- The Olde Internet Inn may have been a neat meeting place with friendly techie atmosphere as they used to say. But is was restricted to certain members. A sometimes arrogant insiderism kept people with less technical competence out of their cosy pub. Poor users had to rely on their cranky sysop's kindliness. The RFC-discussions and meetings which excluded those unable to follow the techie's technical discussions on Internet technology and its development. Yes, the old internet _was_ participatory and democratic. - But democratic in an exclusive way rather like ancient Greek democracy. The traditional Internet community of netizens was similar to the Greek community system which included only their citizens, the "Politai", and excluded all foreigners and slaves from civil rights. Any future information society should be participatory and democratic. Perhaps we could try to transform the former Greek community of the old Internet into a more open organization which does not operate with labels like "slave" and "foreigner" or "luser", "newbie" and "real world people". In this respect, the present call for regulation offers a chance for more democratic participation for _all_ netizens - techies as well as non-techies.